The Josh Bolton Show
The Josh Bolton Show
C Suite Coaching | Donnalynn Riley
Donnalynn is a Business Mindset Coach with a twist.
My training is as a "Spiritual Health Coach" which means that I understand life through the lens of emotions in a way that can help move forward with ease & speed. So, I help people develop & evolve personally in order to grow their business and their impact on the world. In addition to 12 years as a coach, I am fortunate to have been the CEO of a multi-million dollar corporation so I also have many years of knowledge and experience with business systems, operations, management, and marketing to help put it all together. Whether the necessary answer is in a new level of clarity, emotional adjustment, or business systems, management, or marketing, I can help you navigate the way.
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Hello, are you doing? Good? How are you doing really good? Oh, you have multiple going very nice. Yeah, yes. I'm not I'm not a fan of the not being able to see the scene through the the webcam built in webcam you know? Yeah. Yeah. That's it's a very interesting resolution to it. Yeah. Can you you can hear me all right. Oh, yeah. Excellent. Excellent. coming through. Great. What mic are you using? I am using an old school Audio Technica charging chair though. It is. And I'm happy about it. It's, it's a 2020 and 80 2020. Well, that's a good one. Yeah. And then from my previous life, actually, it's so I used to be a sound designer in Broadway shows that kind of thing. Oh, wow. And so. So there's that and then I have my sister in law is a voiceover artist. So I think this one I actually got from her. Nice. Yeah, I, at one point in my life, I was thinking I was gonna be the stagehands that move all the props around for Broadway and all that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My husband was an electrician. And yeah, yeah. We were doing lighting. And actually my thing was sound. Even though I was not what I was aiming for it, they actually the sound people take me up and be like, Josh, fix it. I'm like, okay, I just gonna flip a couple switches until it sounds better. Yeah, it's a blast, you should do it. A lot of jobs right now, though. Especially with COVID. It's really hard to do that. It's true. It's true. But, but a great business really fun, really educational? Really? You know, just, there's so much to it. It's really, there's a lot of depth there. You can you can entertain yourself for a long, long time. Yes. Yes. Um, well, let's get right into it. Tell me about yourself and what you do. Sure, I'm dallin Riley, and I am a business mindset coach. And I really help people, entrepreneurs, and coaches, and direct sellers, all to move past those moments of stuckness. You know, so that can be a lack of clarity can cause that a lack of confidence. Procrastination can get in the way, there's so many things that can really get in our way, when we're just trying to be productive, right. And so, so I work with people to do that, I have the benefit of having been the CEO of a multi million dollar corporation. So I also understand business business systems, and I understand marketing, and you know, all these real world things, right? How do I organize things? And right, that can be also a piece of the puzzle. So sometimes it's internal, and sometimes it's external. So okay, I've interviewed a few CEOs. But I want to hear from your perspective, what is it the perception that people think of CEOs that is completely wrong? That is completely wrong? Well, maybe that they're all the same? That's one thing I'm noticing right out of the gate. Right. Yeah, that I think that even when you say the term CEOs, like if you go online, and you look up, what is a CEO, the the How is defined can change depending on the structure of the company, the size of the company, how the person chooses to run the company. So really, what it involves is varies, right, your day to day can look really, really different depending on who you are, and what company you're running. But the fact that you are in the leading position, that it is your job, to be the visionary, and to make a way for that to come into the world to be practical, right. Sometimes you're the one doing it, right. Some CEOs are also a general manager and things like that. And sometimes you're not but you're always making the way. You're always figuring that out in a sort of a real world way. In addition to leading so yeah, a lot of meetings to Yeah, there are a lot of meetings. Yeah. Nothing happens until we talk to each other right. Life is right. It's so We have to be able to interact with each other. Cuz really, when you're sitting by yourself without talking to anybody or writing to somebody or all that, then nothing's happening, right? Just out by yourself off in the corner could just be wasting time when you could have just been talking. Yeah, yeah. Um, so one thing I was trying to lead with that question is, I'm assuming your company was not public, publicly traded? Okay. Well, it was a private company, okay. Because there was a lot of people I talked to say, oh, big CEOs of publicly traded company, all they do is just make terrible decision, cut the bottom line and get their stocks option. So Mike, no, they got, ultimately whatever happens is business, it's on their head, they want what's best for them, the business, and also that leadership positions are really easy to judge right now. And they're really hard to be in, you know, I think everybody can relate to that. Whether you're, you know, leading your child learning how to walk or you're running a huge company, no matter or anything in between, that responsibility carries with it decisions that have consequences. And sometimes the consequence, zz are good. And sometimes they're bad. And sometimes you think they're good, and other people think they're bad, right? So how it looks from the outside is never how it is on the inside. In my experience. Yeah, that that's what I was more going for. Because I've realized, as I've talked to people, they're like, we have to make the hard decisions. We're the x men, and we're the one who gets our hands dirty. We may not swing it, but we get the consequences kind of thing. Yeah, that's it's a piece of leadership that you just have to accept if you decide to step into it. And, you know, hopefully, you can leave in a way that is timed and not crass, right? Not, in a way not harsh, right. But sometimes that's the way life is. So you do the best you can, and you keep moving forward. And sometimes you have to make decisions that are not good for individuals, but are good for the overall company, and vice versa. So you have to that's, that's what you were hired for was your sense of judgment. So I want to touch a little bit earlier, you were saying you did sound for Broadway. How did that work? What was the What was that like? Well, so from I was very, very young. When I got into the theater, I really enjoyed the theater. I went to performing arts school, I did all these kinds of things. And so when I was about 16 years old, I met a woman who was a sound designer, and I thought, well, that just sounds like the coolest thing ever. And I had the good fortune of meeting the right person and the next right person. And before I knew it, I was on Broadway as an assistant for the sound designer for a few good men. Good. Oh, wow. Yeah. So. So that was really great. And that is kind of that's the short story of how I got from sort of a dream to reality, right? Because that's where I wanted to go. My family's from New York, I knew in New York, you know, I was like, This is what I'm doing. And so that total thing took like, two years, two and a half years, something like that. That's not bad at all. Yeah, it was wonderful. And I got to do that while I was in college, I got to continue to do that and educate myself and get to be in the professional world, both where I went to school and in New York. So I was very, very lucky. And it's an incredible profession. I feel like the systems of the theater make a really good model for the rest of the world, navigating the rest of the world. Right. So my interest in business came after that point. So could you go into a little bit more of the model? I know what you're talking about. Maybe someone doesn't know it? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy to. And so the way that people collaborate, and coordinate and organize inside a theatrical production has both structure and flexibility. So different people have different jobs, different responsibilities, and different, you know, benefits, right. So there's all of this the internal politics that you'll find in a corporation, you'll find in any theatrical production because so and so God shoot differently than, you know this one. And that's so it's helps you to be able to really navigate all of that. Also, you work on a deadline all the time. So we are responsible to time in addition to audiences and higher ups and all of the kind of structure that's in it. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I was working on, we got the actual original Little Shop of horror to come to our college, the props and all that. And with your the split seconds, I literally, so we had to move the thing forward, cuz Seymour was growing. Everyone just left. I was the only one left to do that. And I just sat there. And I'm like, literally what I'm thinking is like, how do you get people to do something that they don't want to do? kind of thing? Yeah, but that's the, the structure. That's where I was saying, I understand what you're talking about for theater. It's like, just that alone. I'm like, Oh, my gosh, okay. whoever's in charge of this must be having like, 27 officers in one day kind of thing. Yeah, it can be stressful, it can be stressful, it is a compressed experience compared to being outside of the theater. And depending on where you're doing it, and how much money there is behind it, it can be even more compressed. Right? Yeah. So it can be really a lot of pressure. But an excellent model for how people relate to one another. And what is communication and what is good organization, and you know, how to work within the structure, and how to still have collaboration, even though there is structure. And I think that that in the in the business world that can often get lost, that at the end of the day, there's one person in charge, and they feel like, I got to take control of this thing. And if they had the benefit of being able to be in high level theatrical teams, they would sort of have a structure for being able to say, Okay, this is a I can I can open this up and allow it to be collaborative, and still be comfortable being the one whose name is on the top of the waybill, right. Yeah, there's, there's so much complexity. So you were talking about your current thing is your coaching. How's that? Yeah, so I am a coach. So I've lived all this life, right? I got to do all these things, which I'm very fortunate for. And I have, in 2008, I became a licensed spiritual health coach. And I did that really in response to a family medical emergency, right. So someone, actually my husband in my family said, he had a very bad diagnosis. And he said, I'm not doing anything they tell me to do, let's figure something else out. And I said, Well, okay. And so that started the road toward becoming a spiritual health coach. And once I understood how the body and the mind and the spirit work together in physiological ways to produce results, right, both physical and mental, then I started to really want to put that into practice in the company that I was leaving so so that I had the opportunity to do that. And the people who worked with me had the opportunity to, to, to learn those systems, and to really fine tune them for business, right? Because there, there's a lot of fine tuning. We're all individuals, so we behave differently. And we see the world differently. We have all these varying backgrounds that don't quite match up, you know, you could say something to one person and have them say yes, yes, yes, I know that. But that's true. And then you say to another person that like, I kind of go with you. And so so being able to have a common language and develop that language, through a business setting has been really, really helpful for me. And so I've had the opportunity since then, to work with many, many, many people, and one on one and in group settings, and to get to help them through those processes. So I just want to touch on something and then we're gonna go right back to that. So it's what I was thinking during the whole time is why would a very successful woman as a CEO give up a very lucrative job to become this? Okay. So the company that I lead closed, I chose to close it and along with the circumstances that we chose to close it And we closed it profitably. And we did it in a really different way than most people do. And that was really awesome. And that was in 2014. And so I said to myself, what's next? What do I, how do I want to contribute to the world? Now? Right? I've had, you know, I've had this incredible life where I've gotten to do these things that many, many people spend an entire lifetime trying to get to the places that I got to go in five or 10 years, right. And so to be able to know what it is to work on Broadway, to work on movies to stand in a room with people who have a lifetime, in front of everybody else, you guys know other names, right? And then to be able to shift that and say, What interests me here? What is the most interesting about that, and to learn more about business and to study it both up close, and through books and things like that, and to be able to make that transition, and then work my way up through a company to become the CEO is thrilling, right? It's really exciting. But I tend not to be a person who says, Okay, let's just keep doing that for another 20 years. Right. So, so when that ended, when I close that, and we were so lucky, the way that it closed, it was really a very good closing. And, and I had a minute, right had a little bit of time to say, What do I want? What do I want? How do I want to contribute to the world? In what way? Do I want to participate with people? Where am I the most effective that I can possibly be in this world, right? Because we all only have so much time, it feels like a lot when we're young. It feels like last home or not, right? And we only have the sort of finite thing. And whether it's 40 years or 80 years or 120 years, it's still finite, it's going to end, my father used to say you get a one way ticket. That's it. Right, some at some point you're going so and so you have to you have to know in yourself. And that I think is part of what I bring to people in my coaching practice is knowing yourself, so that you can make decisions that suit you that are really connected to who you are, and what you want to do with this precious life that you have. And because it goes by fast, it does especially I'm even though I'm 28, I'm noticing like weeks are just slipping. And I'm like, wait a minute. That's quick. Yeah. And it feels like momentum. So as you go through it, you'll feel, or at least most people do that. It's like a snowball, right? That momentum is gathering and it keeps going and it keeps going. And so as as that gains momentum, you have to say to yourself, I think all the time, right? Regular reviews are really important to say, am I heading is this snowball that I'm making heading in a direction I want to go? And if it is, what can I be most interested in about it and be bringing the most value to the world? Through? So you touched on know yourself? How would someone who maybe younger, like 16 to 20? How would you like just like they're naturally good at like, whatever, like maybe video games, but it's how but they don't know what they are good at? How would you explain it to them? So, so young people, teenagers are kind of the miracles of our world as far as I'm concerned. Okay, because they don't care. They don't care what you think. They don't generally think that the systems that are in place are really good. And they should go by them, right? They think, in general, when you get to be a teenager, you think I can do this better than my parents are doing it, or my grandparents have done it. And I don't know why they have all these rules. And I think they should rewrite the whole thing. Let's throw it out and start over. Right? Yeah. And so they have this fresh perspective, which is really, really wonderful. So for a teenager, I would say don't lose that, right? Because we get the kind of rough edges worn off of us when we go through life, which is good in that you can communicate in society. You can play nicely with one another. There's a lot that's really a benefit of being able to fit nicely with others and to participate in the world that does exist. But sometimes when people start going through college, maybe they get to the end of college and they get their first job or second job and things don't go perfectly. Sometimes people can really allow that to impact them in a way that is like a sharp left turn. And that's a real problem, right? Because if we break that spirit, that spirit of knowing ourselves of saying, I am willing to tap into what I know, and to bring it out into the world in a safe way, there's a you know, there's a lot here, right? So some teenagers, and some times can go really far really fast and, and sort of break all the rules and have it not worked out for them. So there's a lot of navigating to do here, right. But in general, that spirit that we feel when we're young, right, one of the reasons I tell the story about going to Broadway and being on Broadway. Particularly the story about getting to Broadway, right is that I was very young, I knew what I wanted, I didn't know how to get there. I didn't know, I didn't have a plan. I didn't go like Oh, if I meet that guy, then I can get here, there was no manipulation in it, there was no like, there was just raw desire, and a desire to do the job really well. And a desire to show up and do it really well, no matter what people were paying me, right? Or if they were paying me, they might be free to. That's right. And to just keep showing up and doing what feels really good. And being the best that you can be in that space in that time. And then see what happens. Because what is astounding is that the person who is the gatekeeper for you to go where you want to go, they end up in that room eventually. You don't really understand how what they do. You just have to as a young person, I think you have to make sure you're not doing it all in your basement. You know, yeah, get out there and get involved. Yeah, it is. as entertaining as video games are. I agree. It's like, you got to get out there if you want to, like if they've want to be like you, if you want to be CEO, then rub elbows with high level management, like figuring out what they figured out. It was like, oh, maybe that is too much responsibility. I'd rather be just like, whatever, like an assistant kind of thing. Yeah, so one of the coolest things about life, as far as I'm concerned is that you get to choose every day. So what's comfortable for you today. So there's a thing where people, often they want something, and they want to reach really far. They're they're sort of overreaching for, you know, they want to go from being pumping gas in a part time position to being the CEO of something, right? So there's a big gap between those two things. And when you try to reach like that, it's very, very hard to imagine that you're going to have a good time doing that. But that's there's going to be a natural pathway. However, when you every day, say to yourself, Is this what I want to be doing? Is this a way for me to enjoy my life because life, we're just talking about a band short, it is also very long, okay? It's really long, and every day happens, right? So if you get up every day, and you think like, Ah, this is no fun, then you're not going to enjoy yourself, right? And so it's going to be a very long road. So being able to say to yourself, this is what I want for now is really important. It's, I think, much more important than this is what I want for my lifetime. Now, don't get me wrong, there are many young people who are on a trajectory. Right? And they are they've been educated in certain places, and they're able to get into certain doors and they want to go to certain places and and that's all fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Right? And as long as they're choosing it, and they're enjoying it, but in the moment that you say to yourself, responsibility is not my bag, and I really just want things to work out and I don't I think all that work stuff is kind of a bother. I used to have a young person in my life who would say When I grow up, I'm going to go live on the beach and do nothing to do in between though, right? That and what are you going to do for interest because living on the beach is great, like, nice. It's nicer if you're in a house at the beach, but it would be interesting here just on the beach. But what are you going to do? How are you going to enjoy life? In what way? Are you going to let life light you up? Yeah, those are some of the questions that I would pose to a to a younger person is and just don't be afraid to choose, right? Because you can choose differently tomorrow. You're not locked in for the rest of your life as clearly, as I have shown. Yeah. I want to say you're the perfect example. Broadway CEO now your own coach. Yes. So one thing I wanted to get your opinion, because a lot of people I'm sitting trading, and so they know this and my work currently, and they're like, Oh, if only I had $100 million. I'm like, Well, you can't hope your way to the top. You have to plan your way to the top. Am I leading them wrong? Okay, so yes or no? Okay, explain the difference. So, when somebody says, Oh, if only I had$100 million, all my problems would be solved. Because that's the implication is like, I got this pile of crap in my life. rails, right problems, vacations, I don't go on, right. That I think would be solved with money. But in reality, every single time that I've ever heard anyone reach for that answer, what they're actually reaching for is freedom. So they're reaching for freedom, and contentedness, and ease, and happiness, all the ways in which we define happiness, right? comes down to freedom, if you had to pick one word, that's the word I would pick. So if I said to you, Oh, if only I had freedom, you would have a really different answer for me, than if I said, If only I had $100 million, because they don't want$100 million. They might think they want that. And maybe that's what they're gonna get, you never know. Because life is funny, works out the way it works, right? But in reality, they're reaching for a feeling. And we can get to that feeling right now. We don't need the 100 million dollars to feel free from the pressures of life. And once you have that perspective, once you say, Okay, I'm willing to feel free without my 100 million dollars that we all want, right? Because Wouldn't it be fun to have a new car every day? You still gotta get rid of them. Right? once once you say I am willing to have the feeling even though I don't have the money in my bank account yet, then your whole perspective changes. So the answers that you come up with now, this is where you come in with your you should have a plan. idea. Okay. So the answers that you get when the the pressure that you feel is I don't have enough money, therefore, I should get a plan to get more money. No, not that amount more money. No, no, not that I'm I really want a lot of money, right? So now we've amped it up, amped it up, amped it up, then there is no path from here to there anymore, because we're kind of in that situation where we're pumping gas, and we're trying to be the CEO of you know, Amazon, right. So. So, if you instead say, Okay, I'm willing to feel good, even though I don't have this and this and this, then the answers about how you get from where you are to where you want to go become really different, right? Because you start to follow what I call following your Yes. So in your body, and everybody's body, you can feel if you tune into it the difference between yes and no. When somebody says something awful to you, you feel the pit in your stomach, and you don't like it. And you know what that feels like? And when somebody says wonderful, something wonderful to you, like, hey, let's go to the beach. I got a plane. You say? I know what that feels like. That feels like Yes. Right? So if you can tell the difference between yes and no in your body, and you can follow those yeses without too much concern for all of what I call taking out the garbage right? The things that are like have to get done, we have to go to work. We have to talk to our bosses, we have to do things we don't want to do all those things we have to do so pay less attention to them and pay more attention to the yeses, the topics that say yes to you. So let's say I think you were talking about your friend who wants to be a video wants to do video games. Isn't that what you were saying before? Yeah, but we'll keep going with that. Say, let's say, let's say you're in your basement and you love playing video games. And that feels good. So keep doing that. And keep meeting people online and keep playing with those people. And yes, for your eight hours a day, or whatever it is, you go to your job, and then you come out and you do a good job, right? No, not really job well, but you spend enough effort on it, that you show up and you're present, and you experience it, and you do the job to the best of your ability, and then you come home and you do all the stuff you want to do. Right? If you keep doing that it's a little like my theater story. So my favorite story is really interesting, because I did not have a plan. There was no plan there. I did not say like, Who do I know, that can get me into? Oh, do I wait a minute, who? Who's friends with my parents? Maybe my parents know, people. Wait a minute, do I have a cousin? We do actually have a cousin. I still never knew that until I was on Broadway. Right? Whose mother's cousin? My brother was in contact with him. Um, you know, and. But I didn't know that. And it was immaterial to me, right? Because what I knew was, I knew what I wanted. I had a clear vision for what I wanted in my mind. And I had no resistance to it. I knew that it was going to happen, right. But I didn't know how I knew that I was having a really good time. And I was showing up and doing the best I could do. And that doesn't mean I did the best job every single day, right? There were there were bad moments in those couple of years. Right? I can remember one time the guy who brought me to Broadway. But the guy who gave me that job, that got me to Broadway the very first time, I had to stand in a room with all of the heads of the, you know, theater that we were working at, and plead for my job. Because I did a bad job one day, I did a really bad job. Because people have bad days they do. And sometimes they make big mistakes, right? But if you keep showing up, and you keep doing the best you can do and you keep bringing your whole self into each moment. So this is the trick, right? Because when I'm saying these things, they sound very easy. But even in this moment, there's probably some portion of your listeners who are going, Yeah, I should check my email. Right? You want to click off here? Yeah, exactly. So um, so when we're multitasking, we're not really showing up. Right, not really being true to who we are, and what we're what we're trying to do in the world. So, so all of that plays in to how you get there. Right? And your way of aligning for that, right? So I didn't know that guy was going to do a Broadway show. He was 25. I was 18. I mean, we didn't we didn't think we were going. He didn't think he was going to Broadway that year. You know what I mean? And done that before. But when it came time, and he knew that he could count on me, and he knew that I would listen, that I would go to the point where I was had made bad mistakes. And I could hear what people would say to me and I would make the change, right. And then he said, this is the this is the kid, this is the kid that I'm taking a Broadway with me. But I didn't plan that I didn't meet him and say like, this is my ticket. Can't wait. Right? So those are the ways that you if you let serendipity show up in your plan, it's great to have a plan, I actually am very, I'm I like to use schedules, and I like to have a plan. It's great to use a plan. They're very comforting. And they give you a sense that things are moving in the right direction. And but you if you let serendipity show up, and you will allow yourself to be present in every moment of your day, then it's a really different story than if what's going on in the back of your head is I just can't wait for this to be over. I would rather be doing something else. I don't want to be here. You're going to miss it. You miss it, you're going to not be present when the guy walks past you who can get you where you want to go. So I want to your input on this because as I'm listening or you haven't said it, but I'm thinking would you think a type of manifestation a type of mindset would also help you there. You don't need a plan. But as long as you're focusing your energy on that one topic. Yeah. Yeah. So the way that the brain chemistry works, there is very little difference between experiencing a thing and thinking about experiencing a thing. So I did these brain scans, where they did a very simple thing where they had someone, they scan their brain while they did it, reach for an item and put their hand back. That's it. They watched what lit up in the brain. And then they had someone watch that person. And they scanned the brain of that person, and it lit up almost identically. And then they had someone just think about reaching for that item and bringing their hand back. And it lit up about 50%. exactly the same. So if you are thinking about things working out for you, if you're thinking about the end result that you want to go to, then yeah, absolutely, there is a way that that can show up for you. Right. But it has to be done in combination with showing up and being present and participating in the world, right, because we can't do this from under the covers and just never get out of the covers. There has to be inspired action. Correct? Absolutely. There was a friend of my sisters when we were very young, who wanted to go to so my sister rode horses, she rode dressage. And so she and she rode with all these people who were very, very, very talented. And one of the people who wanted to do that her name is Jane. She didn't she wasn't rich, right? You have to have a lot of money to play with horses, right? Oh, my God, she she didn't have all the money. She didn't have the money to get to she was gonna she wanted to go over to Europe and ride in a specific event. And that was going to be three months long. And she didn't have the money. And one day somebody said to her, Well, how much would it cost? And she said, I don't know. I think like, $30,000 and they said, Well, now you know what you need. And she went around thinking to herself,$30,000 I mean, 30,000 I'm gonna get $30,000 Yeah, $30,000 and she's scrubbing the horses.$30,000 and everybody in the barn thinks she's crazy. Because Where's she going to get$30,000? If she doesn't have it, right. And she just kept, kept showing up and mucking the stalls and riding the horses and doing what she she does, and doing it to the best of her ability, with the goal in mind. And what ended up happening is, I believe it was the barn owner said, oh, there is actually a scholarship available, you should apply for it. And so she applies for the scholarship. And the scholarship is not for an amount of money. It's for the entire trip. And so what happens is you spend your money, and each week you send in your receipts, and they give you the money, right? They reimburse you, right? And she gets to the end of the trip. And she gets a final accounting of what happened. And it was $30,000. I was just thinking that when you said the scholarship, I'm like that was the the indirect you had to be present to see it. Yeah, that's right. And you had to be showing up and clean the stalls, right? You had to be taken out the garbage. Because if you're not there, then people don't think of you. And if you're not doing something, and they don't know that you have dreams, and aspirations, then they're gonna say, Oh, I have no idea you wanted to do that I could have connected you Sorry, right. But if you're a little vocal, and you say, this is what I want, and I know that I am fully willing to do it. And that doesn't keep me from mucking out the stalls then then people can really show up for you in a different way. And your experience in the world is really different. Right? So we like to say your perspective changes, right? When people talk about manifesting and they say, Oh, yeah, your experience changes because your perspective changes. And in a way it's true. But in this very, very real way, not just your perspective changes the way you show up in the world and the way people treat you back changes. Yeah, and most people have had this experience just in a regular conversation, right? If somebody walks up to you and says, you know, you're working at the at the, at the video store, and they say, how much is that video? And you say, oh, up check. Oh, yeah, they ruin their mobile right there. So really different, right? It's a really different experience. They're gonna say something different to you than if you say, Oh, I love that movie. Why don't check it out? Right? You're gonna be having a really different experience. And so if you amplify that into life trajectory, then that's what we're talking about. I think when we talk about manifesting is it's a much bigger topic. It's every day, every moment adding up to a direction. Yeah. Yeah. And like I said, you don't have to do it perfectly. I just got fired that day. It was a terrible day, I can't remember. But, uh, but you don't have to do it perfectly, but you have to do it to the best of your ability. And if you are even the most quote, rudest boss will realize this guy or gal for your kids, it's like they're trying, like, give them a chance kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, it's true. So, my favorite send off question, and I'm gonna bet you're gonna have a really good one is, with these COVID times the stay at home orders, what have you been doing different than you were before the lockdown? Well, um, so in my life, my husband, and I live in a bed and breakfast, and my husband ran the bed and breakfast, up until COVID. Okay, my day to day life is extraordinarily different than it was right because I was with people all the time. And I had interaction from all over the world and sort of just right there in my breakfast table. There they were, I got to talk to everybody. So my experience is really, really different. So the biggest thing I would say that I have done, because I think that you said, What have you done differently? Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I would say the biggest thing that I'm doing differently is, is this right is reaching out in different ways. And I was always online a lot, right? Because I like to work online. And I'm, I like to communicate, I live in a relatively unpopulated area, lower population in this area. And so, and I'm, I'm from New York, so I like to feel like I'm connected to a lot of people, right. And so, but really enhancing the ability to reach out making it so that like, what we experienced when we got on this call, right, I had the other camera on, and it was kind of yellow, and it was kind of dingy looking, and making it so that I could feel like I was in the presence of people and they could feel like they're in the presence of me. Sometimes it requires a little bit of technology. Now it does. Yeah, because being able to see someone clearly to hear them clearly. It changes your interaction with them. So all of those things, I would say I do really, really differently now. And very well to homicide. Thank you. So other than that, this is brilliant. I'd like to cut it there. Well, we're high and mighty, definitely have to get you have gone in the future. Any time give me a call, email. There we go. I'll see shoot you email. So anything you want to plug your website, etc. Social. Yeah, so um, yeah. So the way for people to get in touch with me is really simple. It's donalyn riley.com. And I do have a free training that's on demand, so that you don't have to write on the front of that page. So you don't have to wait around for three days to get to the webinar or whatever. Okay. And that is called unstoppable confidence. And really good training very short, it's just an hour, I took five days of training and compressed it into a one hour, and will really give you a very good overview of how the brain works and how the body works and how to kind of get this mechanism, this little spaceship suit that we're going around in to work better so that you can achieve the things that you want to achieve in terms of whether they're emotional or physical, right, want to get the job. And then the other thing that's really cool that is on there is Oh, I know what it was. I have a very fun affirmations class that I'm doing. So every Monday at 11am. Eastern, I am doing a a how to have better affirmations, how to make your affirmations actually work, right? Because a lot of people are walking around trying to tell themselves things. And nothing's changing. But they're saying, I have a Millionaire Mind. I am going to be rich, oh as well for me, right? But they're not getting there. And so really what I teach and what we get to practice on that it's sort of a combo of a masterclass and a workshop. And you can register right on my website. And it's called, I'm not sure if there's a link from the front page. So I'm going to give you that link. It's an email after this. Yeah, yeah. So it's a donalyn riley.com slash affirm better. And it's really fun because we practice, we actually do it together. practice that that. How do you reach for the right words? And how do you know when they're the right words? And then how do you implement them in your thinking in your speaking in your write all of that, so it's really fun. And that's all free. The wonderful. I might have to check that out then. Yeah, definitely. I'd love to see you there. That's wonderful. Thank you, as I said, Good. definitely have to get you on in the future. Oh, my pleasure. That would be great. Thanks so much. Thank you. Stay safe and stay well. Have a good one. You too. Bye bye bye.